Gay Marriage and Prop. 8

[nickyivyca]

I thought that because of the ruling that Prop. 8 in California still stands that it would be a good time to bring up this topic.

I, myself, couldn't really find a side to take on the issue. For the for side of it, hey, marriage has been the same for like, 4000 years? Why should we change it? And for the against side, it's true love, no matter what gender each member of the couple is.

This is an interesting topic, it'd be great to hear everyone's opinions on this.

[Chrisjh0223]

As a God fearing Christian, I say that lesbian marriage should always be illegal. The Bible clearly states that only a man and a woman can be married. Not man with man, neither woman with woman.

Seriously, a woman needs a male mate to breed offspring. Two people of the same gender cannot have children of their own blood, yes they can adopt children but it's obviously not the same as having biological children. This is my logical reasoning.

In the Bible, it is mentioned that people who engage in same gender marital relationships are sinning against God. This alone (my religious reasoning) is enough to prove to me that same gender marriage is wrong and should not be done to begin with.

[Young Link Addict]

Well I say no, but some how I was sucked into saying yes on a different website because I was "closed minded." Anyway gay marriage is wrong. If there was supposed to be gay marriage then it would have been legal many years ago.

[Mario15632]

I oppose it; I am also a Christan.

[orga the alien]

I'm not Gay. Nor do I care whether it's illegal or not. I think people have the right to chose what they want to do and not have someone telling them what to do or what not to do. If god exists than why cant you just let Homosexual people just get married or live their life? Then then go to hell. Why can't you just let them have their own punishment if god exists? Also I'm not homosexual bashing im just stating my opinions. Let people do as they wish.

[cheat-master30]

Can someone give more information about this topic? I'm not American, hence saying 'propositional' this or that is meaningless to me. As someone who has no particular religious affiliation or anything, I don't honestly mind if gay marriage is legal. Their choice I guess.

[Mario15632]

Proposition 8 is a bill in California that will decide if gay marriage is illegal or not. It's a heated debate.

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[Young Link Addict]

Yeah, but the California's being stupid right now and keeping gay marriage even though the people chose to ban it.

[orga the alien]

Somebody lock this ****!
I hate gays!

Wow. You astound me. You can clearly read at the top not to start flame wars.

[R.O.B. 2.0]

Somebody lock this ****!
I hate gays!

Than don't post/look in this topic. This is suppose to be an intelligent debate, this is not a place to bash gays, or anyone else. If you hate gays than keep it to yourself.

[orga the alien]

Exactly^ No one is forcing you to look at this.

[kyledude92107]

Anyone else post something like that, and you're gone as well.

[Luis]

Gay marriage is weird in my opinion. I wonder if gay animals exists.

[Young Link Addict]

^There's a possibility that there are gay animals, but no one will ever know. Unless someone studies animals for a long time.

[kyledude92107]

^There's a possibility that there are gay animals, but no one will ever know. Unless someone studies animals for a long time.

Many animals have shown that they can display homosexual activities.

It's just as natural as a heterosexual relationship, IMO.

I'm straight, but do I see anything wrong with people who are gay? No.

[lightspeed97]

I'm not Gay. Nor do I care whether it's illegal or not. I think people have the right to chose what they want to do and not have someone telling them what to do or what not to do. If god exists than why cant you just let Homosexual people just get married or live their life? Then then go to hell. Why can't you just let them have their own punishment if god exists? Also I'm not homosexual bashing im just stating my opinions. Let people do as they wish.

I agree with you. Homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual, you should be able to be with whoever you want. I don't think it's fair to restrain people who love each other from being together. Come to think of it, two of my friends are gay. They're going out with each other and they don't just say that. They kiss. I have no problem what so ever.

[Mr.L]

As a God fearing Christian, I say that lesbian marriage should always be illegal. The Bible clearly states that only a man and a woman can be married. Not man with man, neither woman with woman.

Seriously, a woman needs a male mate to breed offspring. Two people of the same gender cannot have children of their own blood, yes they can adopt children but it's obviously not the same as having biological children. This is my logical reasoning.

In the Bible, it is mentioned that people who engage in same gender marital relationships are sinning against God. This alone (my religious reasoning) is enough to prove to me that same gender marriage is wrong and should not be done to begin with.

I agree. Gay and lesbian marriage are not right, as it states in the bible.

[kyledude92107]

which is why I hesitate to get confirmed.

If God truly is forgiving, it shouldn't matter.

kthxbai

[Mr.L]

That is very true, kyle. If god really loved us, would he not allow one of the major things in his religon, love?

[orga the alien]

And this is why I am not religious.

[imalittlecrazy]

I'm so for gay marriage it's not even funny. I'm bi so really that's a big reason why I say MAKE IT LEGAL!!! I have to go with my side or I'd be a hypocrite.

[Mario15632]

Crazy, I had a feeling that you'd be for gay marriage. (Not trying to insult you) You are different; you kind of take the unexpected side. Oh well, no offense though.

[kyledude92107]

I'd say the fact that she's bi might have a bit more of a pull there. >_>;

[imalittlecrazy]

Crazy, I had a feeling that you'd be for gay marriage. (Not trying to insult you) You are different; you kind of take the unexpected side. Oh well, no offense though.

None taken! :D

[Darkus Triforce]

its a sin to have gay marriage. thats all there is to it.
i respect human rights, but not when it rebels against god.
(im not overly religiouse or anything, but i am christian)

[imalittlecrazy]

Well it's not rebeling. Rebeling is being an Antonist.

[Darkus Triforce]

??? whaddi-wat???
darkus triforce confused...

[orga the alien]

Rebeling against god from my perspective would be blowing up a church.

[imalittlecrazy]

^That would be rebelious too.

[Darkus Triforce]

they might have to if the church was crumbling and threatening to kill everyone inside. destroying holy things is ok if its to save people or some other reason. i mean, if the church in the vatican was falling apart in a lot of places faster than it could be rebuilt, they'd have to blow it up and rebuild for the good of the people. god would accept that.

[orga the alien]

How do you know?

[Darkus Triforce]

because god wants his people 2 live.

[orga the alien]

So much Irony in that^

[Darkus Triforce]

??? darkus triforce no understandy ???

[orga the alien]

Hmm.....God offers you neverending Utopia so dying is really that bad. Also if god doesn't want us to die than why did he create Natural diesasters and dieseases like AIDS.

[lightspeed97]

^Because he's drunk:D.^

[NintenDan]

Can't the two same sex couples just realise that they don't need materials (in this case, a wedding certificate or whatever) to like eachother?

That way, both problems are solved.

[imalittlecrazy]

Well some think it's not fair that they can't be married like opposite sex couples and they love each other just as much as any straight couple would.

[lightspeed97]

Because it isn't fair, IMO.

[imalittlecrazy]

Exactly. Long live Massachusetts cuz there it's legal.

[Chrisjh0223]

Can't the two same sex couples just realise that they don't need materials (in this case, a wedding certificate or whatever) to like eachother?

That way, both problems are solved.

One reason why lesbian couples want legal marriage certificates is because it gives them more freedoms and rights together. For instance, in the case of visiting a person in a hospital, only close relatives can do so. So without the marriage certification, the one person cannot visit his close friend there at all yet if they were married then he easily could. Chances are this reason was mentioned for legalized same-gender marriage in Massachusetts for the liberal side.

[imalittlecrazy]

Well here's what I say. Make it legal. If you're not gay, not your problem. If you are, break out the champange.

[lightspeed97]

I agree with crazy:D.

[imalittlecrazy]

^ Yush!!! All in favor?

[lightspeed97]

Meeeeeeee!

[imalittlecrazy]

Well besides you :D

[Chrisjh0223]

^ Yush!!! All in favor?

Nay. In a serious real life scenario, I would vote no to same gender marriage in the poll booth. This is when an assimilation of laws to go into effect are voted on by the public populace.

[kyledude92107]

Religious views should have nothing to do with politics. >_<

[orga the alien]

*Agrees with Kyle* Incase you are forgetting one of the amendments is freedom of religon. I don't see how gay marriage is a threat to you. By imposing that gay marriage is illegal you are imposing your religon on others.

[Chrisjh0223]

You both have good points. Thing is, Christian beliefs may or may not affect political viewpoints, at least they do with my lifestyle. The bible clearly states that only a man and a woman are permitted to mary; to do otherwise is to sin against the Lord. During Moses' and the Jew's Exodus from Egypt, they lived under God's strict ruling (religion) tied into the government (politics). Moses said directly to the people that same gender marriage was forbidden (against God's covenant), and any violation of this rule would result in forceful exile (with aid of the political military) from the Jews.

Now I know what you're thinking, that was then in an alternate culture and this is now in our current homes. Nonetheless, God directed the rules and they are still inscribed to this date in the Good Book. The rules in that book affect me due to my level of spiritualism, and I vote against it in the political ballots in affect. If you look at the wider scale of Christian people voting against same-gender marriage, it becomes apparant that they all are influenced from religious views and thus affect the political level of earthly operations.

Orga has a good idea here. I do not intend to impose my religion on others, but if you do accept Christianity as your religion chances are you will be completely against same-gender marriage. The freedoms of religion and other lifestyle laws are great, don't get me wrong.

Gay marriage is not a threat at all to me. I could care less about other people with that lifestyle (I'm in no position to determine the will of other people, let alone judge them), so you got a good point there.

[UnknownToaster]

I am for gay marriage.
We came to America to be free, we wanted out rights. Who are we to say BECAUSE YOUR NOT JUST LIKE US, YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT WE ARE!
Homosexuality is just a preference, an idea.
Hey, while were at it why not make a law so Jews can't walk the street past noon and Muslims aren't allowed to whistle and people who like the color red aren't allowed to drive.
It's rediculous.
And the Bible doesn't OWN marriage.
If you think its WRONG for people to like members of the same sex then you are just close minded.

Also, like the others were saying, if you are agaisn't it then chances are, its about religious views.
When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.
Screw religious views because they're not supposed to be involved with this issue. >_>

[imalittlecrazy]

I am for gay marriage.
We came to America to be free, we wanted out rights. Who are we to say BECAUSE YOUR NOT JUST LIKE US, YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT WE ARE!
Homosexuality is just a preference, an idea.
Hey, while were at it why not make a law so Jews can't walk the street past noon and Muslims aren't allowed to whistle and people who like the color red aren't allowed to drive.
It's rediculous.
And the Bible doesn't OWN marriage.
If you think its WRONG for people to like members of the same sex then you are just close minded.

Also, like the others were saying, if you are agaisn't it then chances are, its about religious views.
When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.
Screw religious views because they're not supposed to be involved with this issue. >_>

^ Dude, that is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard *wipes away a tear*

[UnknownToaster]

I am for gay marriage.
We came to America to be free, we wanted out rights. Who are we to say BECAUSE YOUR NOT JUST LIKE US, YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT WE ARE!
Homosexuality is just a preference, an idea.
Hey, while were at it why not make a law so Jews can't walk the street past noon and Muslims aren't allowed to whistle and people who like the color red aren't allowed to drive.
It's rediculous.
And the Bible doesn't OWN marriage.
If you think its WRONG for people to like members of the same sex then you are just close minded.

Also, like the others were saying, if you are agaisn't it then chances are, its about religious views.
When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.
Screw religious views because they're not supposed to be involved with this issue. >_>

^ Dude, that is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard *wipes away a tear*

Thanks, imalittlecrazy! :D

[orga the alien]

I am for gay marriage.
We came to America to be free, we wanted out rights. Who are we to say BECAUSE YOUR NOT JUST LIKE US, YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT WE ARE!
Homosexuality is just a preference, an idea.
Hey, while were at it why not make a law so Jews can't walk the street past noon and Muslims aren't allowed to whistle and people who like the color red aren't allowed to drive.
It's rediculous.
And the Bible doesn't OWN marriage.
If you think its WRONG for people to like members of the same sex then you are just close minded.

Also, like the others were saying, if you are agaisn't it then chances are, its about religious views.
When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.
Screw religious views because they're not supposed to be involved with this issue. >_>
Nice arguement.

[UnknownToaster]

I am for gay marriage.
We came to America to be free, we wanted out rights. Who are we to say BECAUSE YOUR NOT JUST LIKE US, YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT WE ARE!
Homosexuality is just a preference, an idea.
Hey, while were at it why not make a law so Jews can't walk the street past noon and Muslims aren't allowed to whistle and people who like the color red aren't allowed to drive.
It's rediculous.
And the Bible doesn't OWN marriage.
If you think its WRONG for people to like members of the same sex then you are just close minded.

Also, like the others were saying, if you are agaisn't it then chances are, its about religious views.
When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.
Screw religious views because they're not supposed to be involved with this issue. >_>
Nice arguement.

Thanks, I usually have a strong belief or I just leave it alone.
I have a strong belief about this :P

[Nintendofanthr33]

*Damn voice...

I may have a gay sounding voice.
That doesnt mean im gay. Well, if you actually heard me talk, ill talk like 5 different people...

here... i sound like that damn annoying fairy thing in ocarina of time!

[imalittlecrazy]

lol no you do not

[laharl]

i think gays getting married will tarnish the purity of marriage

[imalittlecrazy]

marriage has never been pure?

[orga the alien]

Oh yeah sure. Even though you don't want to make divorces illegal you want gay marriage.

[imalittlecrazy]

gay marriages rox!

[nickyivyca]

A couple days ago there were these people walking around in downtown Palo Alto, asking for volunteership. They were kinda annoying, because every single one of them asked you about stuff, and you continually walked around being asked by each person.

I think it would've been better if Prop 8 never existed in the first place. Or even better, don't bring up the subject at all in courts. We won't have all these protests, and unless someone's reminded of the subject, it's not too likely that anyone's going to get too energized on the subject.

[UnknownToaster]

i think gays getting married will tarnish the purity of marriage

Well I think your homophobic.

[imalittlecrazy]

OOOOH! And we both know that.

[Chrisjh0223]

The reminder I got saying to keep Church and State separate is good. Now I know better than to continue talking against gay marriage, thank you.

gay marriages rox!

Indeed it is, especially when it's between two cute girls. ^_^

[imalittlecrazy]

^ Damn straight!!!!

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

I'm not against gays, but I do strongly disagree with homosexuality. I hate to say this, but their sexual acts are simply... repulsive. And what saddens me the most, is that some gays get furious at other gays that refuse to "come out" and aren't constantly reminding the public of their sexual ways. It's not like straights are out and about reminding and telling everyone about which sexes they have sleep with. I mean, seriously?

*sighs*

Flame or infract me if you want, but I do not agree with homosexuality, and think the men partaking in the act should change their ways, immediately.

[Chrisjh0223]

^ I agree with you in the sense of being against homosexuality in a personal matter, it's just that you can't change the will of other people. In other words, while I'm straight personally, I just let the world take its toll with the people around the world doing their own thing.

Also, considering this part you mentioned:

and think the men partaking in the act should change their ways, immediately.

it sounds like you're only against men with the same gender issue. I know exactly how you feel, but hey, if it weren't for the man-with-man issue, then the girl-with-girl issue may have never come about. We need balance in our lives, it's just a matter of filtering out what you like in the options available. I for one like it when lesbian girls come together, they behave nothing short of awesome!

Reconsidering what you said here:

I hate to say this, but their sexual acts are simply... repulsive.

When this happens, you can either look the other way or simply cope with it.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

Also, considering this part you mentioned:

and think the men partaking in the act should change their ways, immediately.

it sounds like you're only against men with the same gender issue. I know exactly how you feel, but hey, if it weren't for the man-with-man issue, then the girl-with-girl issue may have never come about.

I don't really like either, but man-man relationships seem to be the majority, so I just said "men".

I hate to say this, but their sexual acts are simply... repulsive.

When this happens, you can either look the other way or simply cope with it.

True, but they aren't keeping quiet about it either. As I said, "some gays get furious at other gays that refuse to "come out" and aren't constantly reminding the public of their sexual ways. It's not like straights are out and about reminding and telling everyone about which sexes they have sleep with." It's just irritating, to me atleast, that they have to advertise their sexual acts and want you to treat them differently or whatever because of it. I do appreciate it when gays and the likes aren't doing the above, and are instead just keeping quiet, like the rest of us.

Truthfully, I don't mind homosexuality so much as the homosexuals thinking you have to treat them better or different because of it.

[kyledude92107]

i think gays getting married will tarnish the purity of marriage
And I think you're an idiot who can't put together a decent argument.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.

Does the official government motto "In God We Trust", and "One Nation Under God" line in the Pledge of Allegiance mean nothing? Seperation of church and state is also nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Some ratifying states even had official religions.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

i think gays getting married will tarnish the purity of marriage
And I think you're an idiot who can't put together a decent argument.

He was stating his opinion... and you called him an idiot... <_< >_>

[kyledude92107]

He also stated his opinion while backing it up with **** all.

[UnknownToaster]

When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.

Does the official government motto "In God We Trust", and "One Nation Under God" line in the Pledge of Allegiance mean nothing? Seperation of church and state is also nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Some ratifying states even had official religions.

All countrys have an official religion. It doesn't mean you can't go there unless you that religion. No, its not in the Consitution. Nor have I mentioned it. Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? If you start, you might want a good hard look at the first amendment. >_>

[orga the alien]

When we first declared this country independant, we specially said KEEP CHURCH AND STATE 'SEPERATE'.

Does the official government motto "In God We Trust", and "One Nation Under God" line in the Pledge of Allegiance mean nothing? Seperation of church and state is also nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Some ratifying states even had official religions.

All countrys have an official religion. It doesn't mean you can't go there unless you that religion. No, its not in the Consitution. Nor have I mentioned it. Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? If you start, you might want a good hard look at the first amendment. >_>
Which says freedom of religion. Since opinon gay marriage is purely religion based it isn't freedom of religion.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? If you start, you might want a good hard look at the first amendment. >_>

First amendment gives freedom of religion. It does not say to completely abolish it whenever spotted in official government documents and state.

Since opinon gay marriage is purely religion based it isn't freedom of religion.

Saying the only reason gay marriage could be opposed is because of religion is a little ignorant.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

He also stated his opinion while backing it up with **** all.

He just gave his opinion... there isn't even a way to back it up. He said what he thought- it would be different if he said:

It is common fact that gays simply tarnish the purity of marriage, and you'd be an idiot not to say otherwise.

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[orga the alien]

Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? If you start, you might want a good hard look at the first amendment. >_>

First amendment gives freedom of religion. It does not say to completely abolish it whenever spotted in official government documents and state.

Since opinon gay marriage is purely religion based it isn't freedom of religion.

Saying the only reason gay marriage could be opposed is because of religion is a little ignorant.

Give me an arguement to support that.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

^ Seventh post down.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/atheism-agnosticism/135034-any-atheists-against-gay-marriage.html

And I'm sure there are PLENTY more out there. But, homosexuality-hate doesn't only belong by religious people.

[orga the alien]

Hmm...My bad. I'll take that as an arguement for gay marriage. When I first posted a rely I meant being gay. Im not lying. Thats really what what I meant. However when I posted I really meant being gay. Not gay marriage.

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

Oh... my bad. But, I'm still sure there are some out there who are opposed to it. You'd just have to dig around for it...

[UnknownToaster]

Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? If you start, you might want a good hard look at the first amendment. >_>

First amendment gives freedom of religion. It does not say to completely abolish it whenever spotted in official government documents and state.
Ah, but the entire amendment was based on Separation of church and state. One of Thomas Jefferson's most commonly exercised beliefs.

Since opinon gay marriage is purely religion based it isn't freedom of religion.

Saying the only reason gay marriage could be opposed is because of religion is a little ignorant.
The entire point of marriage is to live your life with another, announce it, and celebrate. Why shouldn't they be allowed to? Besides, atheists get married all the time, how is that religion based?. How about we start a debate on why atheists and agnostics (and the such) shouldn't be allowed to marry and have there marriages mean nothing because they're not in a religion. >_>

He also stated his opinion while backing it up with **** all.

He just gave his opinion... there isn't even a way to back it up. He said what he thought.
But its still a blank idea (otherwise known as BS). Its not a debate unless you say why. You could go around and say [QUOTE]Gays are stupid. Jews are ugly. Catholics are foolish. You can't even be acknowledged unless you have more to say pointing out WHY you think so. Other wise hes not backing up his **** and should GTFO. >_>

[orga the alien]

oh yeah. Good point UT. I hadn't thought about that. Hey Laharl why don't you make it so that Agnostics and Atheists can't get married? After all they are ruining the purity.

[UnknownToaster]

oh yeah. Good point UT. I hadn't thought about that. Hey Laharl why don't you make it so that Agnostics and Atheists can't get married? After all they are ruining the purity.

Yeah its always smart to find the people who aren't exactly the same as you then deny them the rights they used to have just because of who they are.
Might as well ban all atheists and gays from Texas and Kansas.

[orga the alien]

oh yeah. Good point UT. I hadn't thought about that. Hey Laharl why don't you make it so that Agnostics and Atheists can't get married? After all they are ruining the purity.

Yeah its always smart to find the people who aren't exactly the same as you then deny them the rights they used to have just because of who they are.
Might as well ban all atheists and gays from Texas and Kansas.

Might as also ban:
Buddists,Hindus, Mormons, and some other religions and minorities.

[UnknownToaster]

oh yeah. Good point UT. I hadn't thought about that. Hey Laharl why don't you make it so that Agnostics and Atheists can't get married? After all they are ruining the purity.

Yeah its always smart to find the people who aren't exactly the same as you then deny them the rights they used to have just because of who they are.
Might as well ban all atheists and gays from Texas and Kansas.

Might as also ban:
Buddists,Hindus, Mormons, and some other religions and minorities.
Yeah because obviously none of them are worthy of what we have because they're not EXACTLY as we want.
*cough* We are the Master-Race *cough*

[orga the alien]

Also incase you didn't know marriage in the past wasn't really about love and was instead about gaining power or more "land"

[UnknownToaster]

Also incase you didn't know marriage in the past wasn't really about love and was instead about gaining power or more "land"

True. And in some places its still like that. In fact, a lot of families in India trade there daughter's marriage for land/crops/money etc. But its not like that (here) anymore. Now its (for the most part) love. No one can say its 'Wrong' for to be gay. Its just a preference/personal choice.

[orga the alien]

Also if you did banish marriage from other religions than it would violate the constituition. The only reason why you can get away with banishing it is that homosexuality is not a religon.

[UnknownToaster]

Also if you did banish marriage from other religions than it would violate the constituition. The only reason why you can get away with banishing it is that homosexuality is not a religon.

How 'bout we ban Asians and Hispanics and Blacks from Catholicism as well because they're not religions! :D

[orga the alien]

That would be deemed racist. Since homosexuality falls into none of those catagories and is evil through the views Islam,Chrishtanity and Juadism it's exceptable to discrimanate.

[Chrisjh0223]

UnknownToaster was being sarcastic.

[QuillDrill]

I, personally, have nothing against gay marriage and just because it's not a race or religion they should still be able to share the "joy" [lol] of marriage just like everyone else.. even if it's deemed immoral and a sin ^_^

[orga the alien]

UnknownToaster was being sarcastic.

I know. Im still responding why theres a difference between insulting someone in a racist was and in a gay way.

[UnknownToaster]

That would be deemed racist. Since homosexuality falls into none of those catagories and is evil through the views Islam,Chrishtanity and Juadism it's exceptable to discrimanate.
Ah but its not allowed to discriminate about race.
Which means we need to add an amendment or even EDIT the current one.

[orga the alien]

Ahhh...but it would violate the first.

[UnknownToaster]

Bumped with a video that is rry good.
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[orga the alien]

Just saw that and I agree with it!

[NintendudeCT]

You are a complete idiot if you disagree with that video. Go ahead and have an opinion but he IS correct in EVERY way. Who the **** are YOU to tell someone who to love? You're just a horrible person to tell someone else how to live. It's NOT affecting you if they get married. If you think gays are low people, then have fun being even lower, in Hell.

Now, I'm Christian, but the Bible is a joke in so many ways it's not even funny. It's a book that's been rewritten in so many ways as well, making it even worse.

Also, if you say two men or two women can't get married, you might as well say two different races can't either.

If you feel so strongly about it that you would vote against letting them get married, you might as well sign a contract to be in the next Kingdom Hearts game because you are HEARTLESS.

[UnknownToaster]

^Totally Agreed.

[orga the alien]

You know I've heard a lot of really ****ed up arguments from conservevitives. The worst one is that homosexual people are trying to turn hetreosexual people gay....

THIS IS THE WORST ARGUMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PROOF TO BACK IT UP, ALSO ONLY A HOMOPHOBE WOULD BEILEVE THIS.

[Hathril]

Wow, I just figured out my brother is Gay. >_>

[Goomba Smackdown!!]

Gay marriage is really just a status, it's not like they're raising any children. <_< >_> I personally don't care too much about gay marriage. I do not like homosexuality, but I can live with a normal-acting, calm, working citizen that's homosexual. I would wish he wasn't homosexual, but, it's not hurting anyone. However, those insane attention-hogging schizophrenic gays are the ones which particularly anger me (ie Chris Crocker, Jeffrey Star, etc.). People like those are usually the ones wearing tights, shirts that don't go past their belly buttons, and mascara, and yell "BREEDER" at any straight person that dares argue or yell at him. I don't personally see how anyone can see this as acceptable. Sure, they're gay, but that's still rude and completely unrespectful. (It's not like he was born because straight people "breeded").