Autism

[PokeFreak50]

What's your opinion on autism? Remember, this has to be intelligent. (Obvious)

[Chrisjh0223]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.

[NintenDan]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.
Wow, you learn something new every day. That's a really inspiring story, Chris!

As for me, well, I don't know anybody who has the disorder (or whatever it may be called), so I don't really know what to say. But I guess they should be treated like any other normal human being.

[Chrisjh0223]

You are right that they should be treated like any other normal human being. They are just as normal as you, and I know this from personal experience.

There are people (as I mentioned before) with a severe level of autism who require obvious institutionalized assistance. These people should be treated kindly. These unfortunate souls are born this way, they cannot help themselves due to their malfunctioning brain patterns.

[Jimmy H.]

some people think as autism as more of a gift than a disease, which is true if youve seen Rain Man

[UnknownToaster]

My cousin is Autistic. Thats all I have to say.


How is this a debate?
Autism is a mental disorder...

[MrLuigi]

Mother was a school aid, she helped these kids. As they age they DO get better.

I myself had OCD very badly. I...er, did..."odd" things. Like always make good grades, be very organized, etc. But as I age, I tend to be much more laid back. I don't strive for good grades anymore, and I don't give a care about my room, although I may tidy up a bit now and again. I'm very, very smart, just because it's easy.

About the odd things again...
I would rotate around certain things.
Even today, left to right, the ability to "vibrate" my right hand, my left too...sorta.

I also used to hop every three steps, spaz out my face with my hands, tuck my shirt in ALWAYS, etc.

Today I'm laid back, "normal", and awesome.

[akadamaru]

explian to me what this disease is and what it does to your body

[Zexis]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.
I enjoyed reading that :) In a world with so much grief, it's nice to hear about something cheery every once in awhile.

[Zexis]

some people think as autism as more of a gift than a disease, which is true if youve seen Rain Man
A gift, yes; he was a genius. But he sacrificed other normal mental functions for it.

[Teto]

I too am autistic a little, but only a little social defect of sorts, so nothing major. I guess I do slur my words a bit, but that's nothing. I'm pretty neat with in my affairs and enjoy order and organisation.

Not a total outcast though. I was worse when I got into High School, but have since adapted I guess. No psychiatric assistance needed or anything. I just became quiet. I guess it's not the best method, but psychiatrists aren't very easy to come by in Scotland and I was never the best about talking about feelings or anything, so my parents had no idea about any of this.

I've come out a better person though. I feel that I owe it to the internet, mostly. This time last year, I wasn't all that different from when I first started High School 4 years ago, but once I got on the web, I guess it really boosted me.

Yay internet. <3

[Chrisjh0223]

My cousin is Autistic. Thats all I have to say.


How is this a debate?
Autism is a mental disorder...

The topic creator wanted this to consist of intelligent discussion, not particularly in the debate realm.

[TheUltimateKoopa]

explian to me what this disease is and what it does to your body

Autism is a disease which causes your body to turn inside out and squirt out toxic acid, which kills anyone it comes into contact with.....

If you believe that, you're stupid.

BTW, it's not a "disease", it's an "illness". (THere's a difference). I have a VERY VERY mild form of Autism, i.e. Asperger's Syndrome, and I know a few here also have it. It's NOT like a "OMG he's mental RUN!" illness.... it's just that they see things differently (they including me). Like if someone made a joke, people without AS might laugh, but people with AS or even Autism, might I dunno, take it seriously.

[MarioLuigi89]

lol dude you are THE funniest person i ever met on the internet

and chris, are you really that smart?

[Chrisjh0223]

Yes MarioLuigi89, I really am smart. I have overcome mental obstacles in my past to get where I am today. I gather intelligence through dilligent studying and healthy lifestyle habits, whereas other people might be more laid back. I'm a traditionalist and a stickler for rules, this is a side effect of my autistic mindset. While I might allow a little deviation from rules here and there, I primarily reside in the conservative realm.

As you may be well aware, many of us autistic people are primarily introverted. We prefer limiting social interaction to a few people in the real world, and still leading successful lives in all other aspects including the dimension of sociality. It is by living a more conservative lifestyle that oneself unlocks a more likely intelligent life.

In a little closing here MarioLuigi89, I say I have achieved my smarts through well honed integrity.

[Karnage66]

Chris I had no idea. You definitely seem like a very normal and intelligent individual. I already knew you were smart just from reading some of your posts around here.

[Chrisjh0223]

^ Perfect example of leaving a great impression. It's as my grandmother once told me and my father, I sound like a completely different person on the Internet. As you can see here, my spelling and grammatical skills are fluent while in the real world they are of a little less quality.

Karnage, if you saw me personally in real life you might notice I have a slight speech impediment, but otherwise I'm just like any other ordinary person you encounter. I am capable of doing a lot of things on my own, such as learning how to drive a car and researching complex subjects in college. I'm also literally my own maid; I do my own laundry and make my own bed.

[cheat-master30]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.

I had no idea about this either, and I certainly didn't know that even considered sending people to a mental asylum at a young age, I thought that has been outlawed now for cruelty, although I guess I maybe wrong and that thing still happens in the USA. But it's an inspirational story, and I don't think no one here expected you to be anything other than completely 'normal', at least from the quality and general tone of your posts.

[laharl]

i have autism, and as you all can tell, im improving the way i act

[UnknownToaster]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.

I had no idea about this either, and I certainly didn't know that even considered sending people to a mental asylum at a young age, I thought that has been outlawed now for cruelty, although I guess I maybe wrong and that thing still happens in the USA. But it's an inspirational story, and I don't think no one here expected you to be anything other than completely 'normal', at least from the quality and general tone of your posts.

There's a lot of things here that make no sense. Or in other words, are ****ing ridiculous. We celebrate our freedom yet its not given to anyone who's not a straight, white, catholic/christian male.
Some of that has been fixed but unfortunately not all of it is untrue. >_>

[cheat-master30]

Wait, so that is possible to still have happen? I'm sorry, I'm just shocked then if someone can be sent to asylum because people give up on them...

[UnknownToaster]

Wait, so that is possible to still have happen? I'm sorry, I'm just shocked then if someone can be sent to asylum because people give up on them...

No. I highly doubt it.
I'm just saying that our legal system is really unfair.

[Chrisjh0223]

I had no idea about this either, and I certainly didn't know that even considered sending people to a mental asylum at a young age, I thought that has been outlawed now for cruelty, although I guess I maybe wrong and that thing still happens in the USA.

There are some people in mental institutions (that the mental patients live at) at a young age if the cases are severe enough. Incidentally, here where I live, there is a school of sorts for the mentally disabled (not an actual institution to live at, it's to help educate these people). Basically what will happen is the people who learn at this school live at their own household and get transportation to and from this school just like ordinary grade school. If the parent(s)/legal guardian can not provide transportation, the disabled people can ride a bus provided by the CATS service.

Here at this school people get an education at a level correspondant to their mental ability. There are people with moderate conditions who can learn adequately in classrooms. Then there is another group of people who are so confused in life, they are housed in a room with group leaders who try to help the people as best as they can. In the latter case these people will do weird things (i.e. chew on the furniture, hit themselves), so the leaders are a must.

As you can tell, these young people are mental patients but are not housed at an actual mental asylum. This is a school to give these people a fair chance to learn.

[imalittlecrazy]

I have a form of Autism called Asperger's Syndrome. Basically it means I don't have very good people skills. When I was diagnosed a year ago, I thought of it as a relief, to be honest. As a kid, I was always the "troubled one" and the one that would never amount to anything. I had few friends and didn't understand why anyone liked anything I didn't like. Then, when I went to a psychiatrist to get depression pills, my doctor said "I want to give you an evaluation". 200 questions later, she said I had Asperger's. So now finally, I had an answer to why I was so "unattentive" and "rebellious" At first, my dad said my doctor was lying, but she wasn't. Since then, I've been so much happier because now I can learn about it and try to find ways to not be so outcast. I've joined support groups and been put on medication to help my symptoms, but some parts are still a problem. I over react sometimes to the smallest things, I hate little noises, and I've been known to threaten. But mostly, I'm good when it comes to my autism.

[PokeFreak50]

I have a form of Autism called Asperger's Syndrome. Basically it means I don't have very good people skills. When I was diagnosed a year ago, I thought of it as a relief, to be honest. As a kid, I was always the "troubled one" and the one that would never amount to anything. I had few friends and didn't understand why anyone liked anything I didn't like. Then, when I went to a psychiatrist to get depression pills, my doctor said "I want to give you an evaluation". 200 questions later, she said I had Asperger's. So now finally, I had an answer to why I was so "unattentive" and "rebellious" At first, my dad said my doctor was lying, but she wasn't. Since then, I've been so much happier because now I can learn about it and try to find ways to not be so outcast. I've joined support groups and been put on medication to help my symptoms, but some parts are still a problem. I over react sometimes to the smallest things, I hate little noises, and I've been known to threaten. But mostly, I'm good when it comes to my autism.

I have Asperger's as well. I can't pay attention, I have poor social skills, and some other stuff I forgot about. But I have to say that it kindof makes me unique. I don't know why. O_o

[Chrisjh0223]

I believe I know why PokeFreak50 is unique in the sense he mentioned. He stated he has poor social skills and can not pay attention. These traits are evident in many people who also suffer from the disorder, among any other symptoms. I have read about this in the past from news articles and mental health documentaries I've seen on television broadcasts.

So yes, PokeFreak50 is unique in his own way, and probably even in matters he has not mentioned on the boards as of yet (I said probably, not to imply anything). I for one am unique in my own way with a daily routine I have, I can not stand going about my day without making my bed. In turn, this is something that my autism drives me to do on a daily basis, but it's nonetheless a great personal moral to have. Everyone else I know of is laid back, they don't bother making their bed every single day. Heck, they don't make their bed most often. My parents sometimes will, depending on if they're in the mood or not (and if they have the time to spend; they will not if they're in a hurry). I have hardly ever avoided making my bed in the past, it's a daily routine I feel I have to accomplish.

It is little things like this that make us people with notable mental symptoms unique on the whole scale of people in the world.

[imalittlecrazy]

I have a form of Autism called Asperger's Syndrome. Basically it means I don't have very good people skills. When I was diagnosed a year ago, I thought of it as a relief, to be honest. As a kid, I was always the "troubled one" and the one that would never amount to anything. I had few friends and didn't understand why anyone liked anything I didn't like. Then, when I went to a psychiatrist to get depression pills, my doctor said "I want to give you an evaluation". 200 questions later, she said I had Asperger's. So now finally, I had an answer to why I was so "unattentive" and "rebellious" At first, my dad said my doctor was lying, but she wasn't. Since then, I've been so much happier because now I can learn about it and try to find ways to not be so outcast. I've joined support groups and been put on medication to help my symptoms, but some parts are still a problem. I over react sometimes to the smallest things, I hate little noises, and I've been known to threaten. But mostly, I'm good when it comes to my autism.

I have Asperger's as well. I can't pay attention, I have poor social skills, and some other stuff I forgot about. But I have to say that it kindof makes me unique. I don't know why. O_o

Me tooooooooo... :D

[Mariofan4ever]

first off, I have aspburgers, which is a form of autism, which basically makes it difficult to interact with people. but i got over it (mostly) and have several really good friends at this point. anyhow, people with aspburgers should be treated normally, exept when it comes to grading, seeing as how when it comes to taking notes, working in groups and such, the person may find it a bit more difficult to do well, and should therefor be graded with the proper acomidations. other than that, if anything, other kids who use the term "retarded" to descibe the person, or even worse, to taunt them, should be severly punished.

if anything i posted just now is confusing (it happens a lot) please let me know and I will try to explian what i mean better

[imalittlecrazy]

I'm a bit confused. :D

[TheUltimateKoopa]

Wait, crazy? You mentioned that you "overreact to little things"? If only I could say "It's not my fault I overreacted and got demoted from being a GCL" and continued to overreact TOO MANY times after that, I have Asperger's Syndrome", but unfortunately that'd not work. I'd probably get something like "Who cares?".

[Mario15632]

explian to me what this disease is and what it does to your body

Autism is a disease which causes your body to turn inside out and squirt out toxic acid, which kills anyone it comes into contact with.....

If you believe that, you're stupid.

BTW, it's not a "disease", it's an "illness". (THere's a difference). I have a VERY VERY mild form of Autism, i.e. Asperger's Syndrome, and I know a few here also have it. It's NOT like a "OMG he's mental RUN!" illness.... it's just that they see things differently (they including me). Like if someone made a joke, people without AS might laugh, but people with AS or even Autism, might I dunno, take it seriously.

I might have Asperger's too, TUK, and I see what you mean by the joke thing. People with AS take different things seriously and have a complex sense of humour. I like to use satire a lot, and some kids my age can't understand it. I also have trouble in some social situations, and may have trouble making friends or understanding social cues. I'm sure you know what I mean.

[imalittlecrazy]

I'm like that too, but there are physical things with it too. Take for example, the GF/CF thoery

[MrLuigi]

Some guy at school once said he had 8 types of cancer >_>.

And he has a mental disability of some sort.
Go figure.

[bowser bones]

I know for a fact that it's a mental disorder that can be overcome. I remember back when I was young and diagnosed with a high level of it (I was quite the unusual then), the doctor said I had no hope for a future. My mother agreed to send me to a mental institution. My father opposed to this and when they divorced he took me with him. I gradually coped with it better, and the level of my disorder decreased as I aged. As I got into higher elementary school grades the disorder still existed, but to the low extent that I appeared as any other human being on the outside. I was very capable of anything just as much as any ordinary person of my age and even to this day.

I still have to cope with some things (such as a slight speech impediment) but with personal therapy I have overcome so much, even my speech. I've developed efficient computer typing skills much like anyone else, you would not even know I was diagnosed with autism; before you read this you were likely to believe I had no such mental fallacy.

I'm aware that there are people who have the disorder so bad, so unfortunate that they cannot help themselves. But if a person is diagnosed with mild fallacy (like me) then hope actually exists.

I really almost cried reading this.

[imalittlecrazy]

So did I :( :(

[dragonboy]

Me and a lot of my friends have asperger. I don't really notice much of a difference between my friends and other people, except sometimes we like to talk about weird things, like what is the mathimatical aspects of randomocity, the study of randomness?

[imalittlecrazy]

Me and a lot of my friends have asperger. I don't really notice much of a difference between my friends and other people, except sometimes we like to talk about weird things, like what is the mathimatical aspects of randomocity, the study of randomness?

I wish there was a study of randomness!

Oh, and anyone who wants to join my Facebook cause for a cure for autism, please join at http://apps.facebook.com/causes/341641/63244165?m=a041d4cc

[Mario15632]

Me and a lot of my friends have asperger. I don't really notice much of a difference between my friends and other people, except sometimes we like to talk about weird things, like what is the mathimatical aspects of randomocity, the study of randomness?

I wish there was a study of randomness!

Oh, and anyone who wants to join my Facebook cause for a cure for autism, please join at http://apps.facebook.com/causes/341641/63244165?m=a041d4cc

Adsvertising much?

And Dragonboy, even though my friends don't have Asperger's like I do, I do like to talk about literary aspects and math. For example, something I did today; what if you answer a rhetorical question with another rhetorical question? Would the question asked first still be rhetorical? But then, it was answered with another rhetorical question, so what is it? ...Fun little enigmas.

[imalittlecrazy]

It's not an ad cuz if it was I'd say micheal jackson supports it

[dragonboy]

If we all have asperger, then why is everyone here so much more understanding and friendly here than every other internet forum I've been on? Are asperger people generally more friendly?

[Mario15632]

It's not an ad cuz if it was I'd say micheal jackson supports it

lolfail. No offense.

Dragonboy, that depends on what you mean by friendly. If you mean outgoing or social, DEFINITELY not, but if you mean nice, I suppose so. Not to mention that most of us here are just nice people.